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Dear Friends of Liad --

my geography of Britain is not what it might be -- how are all our FoL members across the pond doing in the face of flooding?

Repeat after me: climate change is a myth.

2009-11-22 01:10 (UTC)
by [identity profile] celticdragonfly.livejournal.com
Hmph. My POV - climate *stability* is a myth. Of *course* climate changes. It's not like it's been one steady state since life arose on the planet. It changes a lot.

The idea that *humanity* is completely responsible for climate change, without humanity's technology there would have been NO change, and that humanity can control the earth's climate and stop it from changing from what it's been the last 100 years or so - that I find a bit much. Also there seems to be an undercurrent that the climate changing from what it has been the last 100 years or so will mean the Destruction of Everything, Life Will Cease. Because of course, life couldn't exist in any other climate.

That said, I wish well to anyone who is currently dealing with flooding. My spouse has just joined the local state guard to help with needs for disaster relief, so that sort of thing is much on our mind.

heracy!

2009-11-22 06:43 (UTC)
by [identity profile] stick-breaker.livejournal.com
You may not Question Global Warming. All who do shall be burned at the steak. (oops that would be bad, all that nasty water vapor release into the atmosphere) On second thought, You SHALL be buried under a peat bog so that all of your carbon is sequestered for all time!

Seriously, if all of the eco nuts would actually think before they bought a "Green" Prius or Volts, instead of buying a new vehicle repair and reuse. I do my part for the environment by wearing out my vehicles. I only replaced my previous vehicle after it was totaled by a driver crossing the center line. I had 441,206 miles on it. My current vehicle has 306,195 miles on the odometer. Based on the literature for the Prius, I would have needed to replace the battery pack 3 times for the first car and twice for the second car. And Lithium is a toxic material. So that would be about 5 x $3,000.00 without installation. My current car is 21 years old, the previous was 16. I have never fallen into the gotta get the "new" model year.

P.S. any update on the latest ChapBook?

Re: heracy!

2009-11-22 16:32 (UTC)
by [identity profile] kinzel.livejournal.com
If words could speak, I wonder what they'd say?

Here in Maine the average spring "ice out" is getting earlier -- and the length of time of ice-in on lakes has been getting shorter.

No brag, just fact.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2005/3002/

Climate change *is* happening.

As they say, the crick is rising ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise



2009-11-22 10:28 (UTC)
by [identity profile] green-knight.livejournal.com
It's worst in the Lake District. The rest of us have a lot of rain, but not exceedingly so, but the situation up there is _bad_.

2009-11-22 12:13 (UTC)
by [identity profile] keristor.livejournal.com
Wales has had quite a bit as well, but nothing like that up in Cumbria and SW Scotland. Where I am, not much at all (but then for years we didn't get weather at all, all of the weather reports managed to go all round the county town of Buckinghamshire but miss us out; even in the hurricanes we only had high winds, hardly any rooftiles even moved).

2009-11-22 15:46 (UTC)
by [identity profile] djbp.livejournal.com
London area was only damp and blustery.

2009-11-23 19:45 (UTC)
by (Anonymous)
Most serious climate change proponents are not claiming that humans are the only agent. What they are claiming is that our emissions are having an amplifying effect on normal climate variation. Enough of an effect that we are heading into, let call interesting territory.

2009-11-26 04:46 (UTC)
by (Anonymous)
Oh the climate is changing, but not in the way that most GW proponents believe. Some very serious scientists are stating that GW ceased about 5-6 years ago, and that we are heading into a period (up to 150 years, according to some) or significant cooling, as the solar immolation has decreased by nearly 0.5 W/m^2 and the global heatstore from decades of warmth drains away.

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/3515/Prominent-Russian-Scientist-We-should-fear-a-deep-temperature-drop--not-catastrophic-global-warming

Brom

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