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I'm looking for an idea of what kind of rotation I'd need on a drum with a diameter of about 6 meters to give an object/person on the inside of the drum the feeling of 1/10, 1/3, 1/2, 3/4, 1, and 1.5 g ... is that too hard? Alas, I have no math and I must scream. Said drim to be in a spaceship in orbit, if you care.

2008-09-07 08:55 (UTC)
by [identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com
Does that depend on habituation? E.g., traveling in a car is often sickening until one's brain learns that the visual and motion sensing (inner ear?) messages are not a problem. For that matter, ice skaters learn to spin -- and apparently ignore the vestibular signals, if I remember the science special I saw where they were doing experiments in spinning chairs with such subjects. So perhaps someone who regularly layed down to exercise/sleep in such a framework would get used to it?

Which probably raises the issue of why one is laying in such a spinning framework? Perhaps to reduce the effects of prolonged zero-g?

2008-09-07 13:46 (UTC)
by [identity profile] kalimeg.livejournal.com
Um. I used to dance and skate and do high-speed whirling. It's not the same at all. Moreover I used to adore rides with high centripetal motion. I doubt one could sleep in such an environment. Later, chemical changes led to that motion being sickening -- so no more rides where I push the boundaries of fast spinning.

Give this one up.

2008-09-07 15:16 (UTC)
by [identity profile] keristor.livejournal.com
For many of us travelling in a vehicle not under our ddirect control is always nauseating, no matter how much we do it. It isn't only a visual/motion conflict, blind people get car-sick as well. Indeed, I and many others find that if we can't see it's worse.

Being in control of the vehicle (and even more one's own body) makes it a lot easier to take the movement. In the case of dancers and skaters they deliberately minimise the effects by facing the head in the same direction for as long as possible (except for people in horror movies human heads don't rotate through complete circles, but dancers etc. simulate it so that it almost looks as though they are doing that). Being able to anticipate the movement, and for it to be easily predictable (when I turn the wheel to the left I feel acceleration to the right, etc.) makes it a lot easier to handle.

If one were only lying in the rotating cylinder and only moving to enter and leave then probably there wouldn't be much problem. However, if one were moving around then the Coriolis effects and the change in acceleration would be hard to accustomise, much like inner-ear disorders (I know people who have learned to live with them but none who have eliminated the reaction to sensations). Especially in such as small and quickly-rotating frame of reference the sensations caused by even a small movement would be more than we would expect to handle.

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