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kinzel ([personal profile] kinzel) wrote2005-10-23 01:56 pm

Just a note about fighting for your religion

As a science fiction writer... I'm supposed to ask, in part, what if.

So: what if a group of Christian fundamentalists tries to take over a US state and, if the Feds don't come to heel, to take that state out of the US in order to "redeem" it?

This is kind of an off-the-wall thing right? I mean, Heinlein and all those others couldn't been thinking about...about people like this, right? I mean, wouldn't South Carolina make a great place to start a civil war... oh, it's been done already?

In the face of all the people killed in the name of God and Allah in the last few years alone, how can this guy think that what he's suggesting would result in anything but hate and, ultimately, fanatic bloodletting?

(Anonymous) 2005-10-23 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not going to get upset over these particular crazies until they get more than five families to move. I'm much more concerned about the "Christian Separatists" in thinly-settled Idaho.

If you're interested in the far-right's attempts to subvert the government, you should be reading Orcinus. http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/

[identity profile] not-croaker.livejournal.com 2005-10-23 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I'd like to take the right-wing loonies and the left-wing loonies, and pack them all off to Quebec, or somewhere, where they won't bother us anymore.

Of course, that would depopulate DC, NYC, and California...

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2005-10-23 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not just the far right Christian extremists. Libertarians are trying to take over one of the New England states (I think New Hampshire?) and Mormon polygamists are building a compound in West Texas. Their purchase of land, etc. was terribly sub rosa, but legal. Unfortunately, the local people trying to figure out a way to protect themselves from being overrun are a small portion of the push behind Prop. 2--a state constitutional amendment that is nothing but trouble, it's so poorly thought out. (See my journal for more on it.)

Every once in a while, I sneak a peek out of the corner of my eye, and wonder if we're living in Friday's America, and not ours.

I don't have an answer. If Prop. 2 passes, I may have to leave Texas to be able to order my affairs the way I choose to do so. So...is it time for a bunch of us to find a center of open-minded people, who understand that we all must pay for public education, or be the prey of those who can't earn a living--or carry them as a burden on the dole? Who wish to give to their constitution, and receive its bounty in turn?

We should factor expensive heating oil into this move as well, probably...

(Anonymous) 2005-10-25 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
He doesn't really care if it results in hate, as long as Christians are hating non-Christians, or bloodletting, as long as it is the blood of non-Christians, gays, women who want to exercise their civil rights and other assorted liberal types who are obviously trying to turn this county into a Godless nation.

I get so tired of these people. I don't care if they're Christians, why should they care if I'm Buddhist? or gay? or an atheist? or someone who thinks for herself? These are the same sort of people who think that the fabric of the universe will be torn asunder if gay marriage is recognized and that somehow a lesbian couple in a committed relationship is going to destroy their marriages and their families.